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Author Topic: Torrent Announce: Roger Waters - HRV CDR015 REV A - KAOS On The Road [FLAC]  (Read 1739 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2007, 10:00:31 PM »

 lol Thanks!  I'm interested in how you did like this show and what you think about the Radio K.A.O.S. concept.
(Listening to the radio was so impotant to me and radio was so different then. There was so much played that does not fit on the modern streamlined playlists of today...)





Following is from the album's sleeve notes:

RADIO K.A.O.S. by Roger Waters

Benny is a Welsh coal miner. He is a radio ham. He is 23 years old, married to Molly. They have a son, young Ben, aged 4, and a new baby. They look after Benny's twin brother Billy, who is apparently a vegetable. The mine is closed by the market forces. The Male Voice Choir stops singing, the village is dying.

One night Benny takes Billy on a pub crawl. Drunk in a brightly-lit shopping mall, Benny vents his anger on a shop window full of multiple TV images of Margaret Thatcher's mocking condescension. In defiance, he steals a cordless 'phone. Later that night, Benny cavorts dangerously on the parapet of a motorway footbridge, in theatrical protest at the tabloid press. That same night, a cab driver is killed by a concrete block dropped off a similar bridge. The police come to question Benny; he hides the cordless 'phone under the cushion of Billy's wheelchair.

Billy is different, he can receive radio waves directly without the aid of a tuner; he explores the cordless 'phone, recognizing its radioness. Benny is sent to prison. Billy feels as if half of him has been cut off. He misses Benny's nightly conversations with radio hams in foreign parts. Molly, unable to cope, sends Billy to stay with his Great Uncle David, who had emigrated to the USA during the war. Much as Billy likes Uncle David and the sunshine and all the new radio in LA, he cannot adjust to the cultural upheaval and the loss of Benny, who for him is 'home'.

Uncle David, now an old man, is haunted by having worked on the Manhattan project during World War II, designing the Atom Bomb, and seeks to atone. He also is a radio ham; he often talks to other hams about the Black Hills of his youth, the Male Voice Choir, about home. He is saddened by the use of telecommunication to trivialise important issues, the soap opera of state. However, Live Aid has decynicised him to an extent. Billy listens to David and hears the truth the old man speaks.

Billy experiments with his cordless 'phone, he learns to make calls. He accesses computers and speech synthesizers, he learns to speak. Billy makes contact with Jim a DJ at Radio KAOS, a renegade rock station fighting a lone rear guard action against format radio. Billy and Jim become radio friends, Reagan and Thatcher bomb Lybia. Billy perceives this as an act of political "entertainment" fireworks to focus attention away from problems at "home".

Billy has developed his expertise with the cordless 'phone to the point where he can now control the most powerful computers in the world. He plans an "entertainment" of his own. He simulates nuclear attack everywhere, but de-activates the military capability of "the powers that be" to retaliate. In extremes perceptions change, Panic, comedy, compassion. In a SAC bunker a soldier in a white cravat turns a key to launch the counter attack. Nothing happens; impotently he kicks the console, hurting his foot. He watches the approaching blips on the radar screen. As impact approaches, he thinks of his wife and kids, he puts his fingers in his ears.

Silence. White out. Black out. Lights out. It didn't happen, we're still alive. Billy has drained the earth of power to create his illusion. All over the dark side of the earth, candles are lit. In the pub in Billy's home village in Wales one man starts to sing; the other men join in. The tide is turning.
Billy is home.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2007, 10:04:05 PM »



In perhaps his most popular work, Understanding Media: the Extensions of Man, McLuhan elaborates upon the sensory manipulation of the electric media. Like most of his writing, Understanding Media was criticized for its indigestible content and often paradoxical ideas. Ironically, it was this work which captured the minds of the American public and triggered McLuhan's metamorphosis from literary scholar into pop culture guru.

Understanding Media contained the quintessential McLuhanism: "the medium is the message." McLuhan explained that the content of all electric media was insignificant; it was instead the medium itself which would have the greatest impact upon the socio-cultural environment. This perspective was contested by all members of the mass communication paradigm--empirical researchers rejected McLuhan's grand theorizing; critical cultural theorists felt McLuhan undermined their agenda by discounting the power relationships inherent in and perpetuated by media content.

His thesis is judged to be not without merit, however. Understanding the "televisual experience" and the role of the medium within the context of contemporary life has inspired much popular culture research. It is within this same framework that one ponders the impact of technologies such as the internet and high definition television. It is perhaps both medium and message which must be considered.

In Understanding Media, McLuhan proposes a more controvesial frame for judging media: "hot" and "cool." These categorizations are puzzling and contemporary technology renders them practically obsolete. In simplest terms, "hot" is exclusive and "cool" is inclusive. Hot media are highly defined; there is little information to be filled in by the user. Radio is a hot medium; it requires minimal participation. Cool media, by contrast, are low definition and thus highly participatory because the user must "fill in the blanks." Television is the ultimate "cool" medium because it is highly participatory. This categorization is extremely problematic to those who consider television viewing a passive activity.

To illustrate this concept, McLuhan analyzed the Kennedy--Nixon debates of 1960. Kennedy's televisual victory was due to the fact that he exuded an objective, disinterested, "cool" persona. Nixon, better suited for the "hot" medium of radio, was considered victorious by those who had listened to the debates on radio.

The McLuhanism with the loudest echo in contemporary popular culture is the concept of the "global village." It is a metaphor most invoked by the telecommunications industry to suggest the ability of new technologies to electronically link the world. McLuhan's then outrageous vision of a post-literate society, one in which global consciousness was shaped by technology instead of verbalization, has been partially realized by the Internet. For McLuhan television begins the process of re-tribalization through its ability to transcend time and space, enabling the person in New York, for example, to "experience" a foreign culture across the globe.

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/M/htmlM/mcluhanmars/mcluhanmars.htm
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2007, 11:02:42 PM »

Many thanks!

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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2007, 12:16:36 AM »

way cool, xuncat!
thank you very much!!!

cheers!
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 08:27:32 AM »

I picked up this album in a bargain bin at my local Woolies in cassete form and was knocked sideways by it. An amazing piece of work. It also brought back memories (recent then) of the Miners strike in the 80's. I grew up and was living in a South Wales village/town at the time of the Strike and saw at first hand what Maggie T did to my friends who worked in the pits, and the effect on my community and others around the country. My town is still feeling the effects twenty+ years later, but a group of miners pooled all their money and bought their pit from the coal board and now run it for themselves.
Go Tower Colliery Go! Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2007, 08:57:20 AM »

Many thanks!

(catagorized as "punk"?)

Punk?!! Dang, it's supposed to be "progressive rock", I must have mis-clicked on the scroll...  Embarrassed

Thanks for informing me, I'll see to editing it. And, you're very welcome, all! Bow


Edit: Category fixed.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2007, 06:53:36 PM »

anyone knows if exist a DVD (non official) of this tour  Huh? it would be great, after reading this topic I really get in the mood to wach it  Grin ...or we just have to watch the "fake 1987 PF" VHS  Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2007, 09:27:19 PM »

Not allowed for embedding but there are some KAOS clips at youtube.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JuK0CtXPrbo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/JuK0CtXPrbo</a>
Direct Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuK0CtXPrbo

But I have never seen a DVD of a KAOS show. That would be fantastic if some did show up...  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2007, 09:36:27 PM »

 Grin Different century but from your "hometown"...

Roger Waters - Have A Cigar (Full) Chile, 2007

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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2007, 01:25:28 PM »

well, the DVD exists.
in fact, I think any yeeshkuler could do some check over there Smiley
some...
http://www.yeeshkul.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87&highlight=Roger+Waters
"I just want to say thank you for seeding this. I've watched about 1/2 of the first disk so far, and I'm really blown away by the quality. How the hell did the filmer manage to smuggle that camera in, let alone get the quality he/she did?! (All of you young whipper-snappers bear in mind - this was filmed way back in '87, and back then camcorders were roughly the size of Chevettes.) If you're a Waters fan, especially of his KAOS period, this is a must have."



and here you have more light:
Madison Square Garden, New York, USA, August 26 1987 (123m)
The Omni, Atlanta, USA, September 2, 1987, full concert without Breathe
The Omni, Atlanta, USA, September 2, 1987 (120m) ends after Home
Market Square Arena, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, September 5 1987 (123m) missing encore
Colisee de Quebec, Quebec, Canada, November 7 1987 (149m) complete show

http://www.rogerwaters.org/kaosdisco.html

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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2007, 01:53:26 PM »

Oh, good research! Somehow that slipped my attention (and I should have read that page to the very end...). Now I know what to hunt for...  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2007, 09:02:32 PM »

Acording The McLuhanism (I'm quite ignorant about his work)
MWP is a small global village.
"global consciousness was shaped by technology instead of verbalization, has been partially realized by the Internet. For McLuhan television begins the process of re-tribalization through its ability to transcend time and space, enabling the person in New York, for example, to "experience" a foreign culture across the globe"

yeah, he is right on that point.

and given the fact MWP is a village, "pueblo chico, infierno grande", as we say here  lol lol lol

also, I think KAOS show (just for the facts you posted here) was quite in the mind of U2 when they created ZOO TV concept. I'm sure.
Aside I want to watch it for pleasure, I'm pretty sure U2 took many ideas frorm Radio KAOS  Wink
what do you think ss of this Huh?
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2007, 09:30:01 PM »

Trust Brian Eno: "McLuhan changed the world in one sentence."

I recommend to get: Marshall McLuhan/Quentin Fiore - The Medium is the Massage; An Inventory of Effects (that is great fun, not much text, many pictures, really stimulating the mind...)

And even better "Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man" (mindblowing! Jim Morrison did read that book, too. Grin )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understanding_Media

Do yourself a favour and get those! Media will never be the same again then...  lol

Interesting idea: KAOS is about radio and ZOO TV is the same concept about TV. Would be great to find some more material about the KAOS and ZOO TV concepts.

TV: "It speaks, and yet says nothing."
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2007, 09:37:49 PM »

man, you say it Eno loves McLuhan...ergo...Eno>U2.

I mean, that issue of talking with people of the audinece is like video confessional on ZOO TV.

wow  Grin, where is my contract for Rolling Stone, I'm ready to work with David Frickie  lol
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2007, 09:49:28 PM »

Full text here!  Grin

http://cultofjim.com/scripture/understanding_media/


Chapters

30 Radio: The Tribal Drum
http://cultofjim.com/scripture/understanding_media/#chapter30

31 Television: The Timid Giant
http://cultofjim.com/scripture/understanding_media/#chapter31

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