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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2008, 03:04:55 PM »

I think as long as someone has a ratio of 1 everything is ok. I have my client set to seed up to a ratio of 1,5 and then stop. Of course this does not work everytime so it is good to share some other torrents to a higher ratio and have a buffer for older torrents or torrents that do not get so many snatches.

I don't burn my audio downloads to CDR so I prefer the flacs being correctly tagged when I listen to them on my computer. (Of course I rarely re-tag them as it seems to be a nightmare to me tagging some hundred GB of stuff that sits on my external HD.)

I haven't yet found a system to organize my collection but would be very interested to find a good way for that, as my main aim for 2008 is to have a complete tradelist again. I even considered using some of the online systems like etree as many shows are available there and I don't want to type that list myself...


As for the HRV-naming convention: the main focus of the project was to make those shn-releases available as flacs and proving that the shn-flac conversion can be trusted (there are still a lot of paranoid people around who don't trust their computers doing the math), along the way we even corrected some SBEs of the original files...
Keeping the original filenames was a way to keep the integrity of the project by keeping it as close to the originals as posible (by even taking care of that detail). This decision was done this way as I thought that most people aren't too common with st5 and wouldn't regard that as a tool for ckecking with the original shns.




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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2008, 03:47:51 PM »


I haven't yet found a system to organize my collection but would be very interested to find a good way for that, as my main aim for 2008 is to have a complete tradelist again. I even considered using some of the online systems like etree as many shows are available there and I don't want to type that list myself...


hi ss,

there's a program to organize it developed by a bootleggler to bootleggers...  Cheesy  lol

dboot, by Paul Crowder

Prerequisites: dBoot requires Windows 98 or later, along with the .Net Framework 2.0. If you do not have the .Net Framework installed, you can download it for free here. Note that if you are running Linux and have Mono installed, you may also be able to run dBoot, though I have not yet tested it for this scenario.
Download dBoot 1.8 EXE


http://www.paulcrowder.net/dboot/

gg's system:

i use EditPad Lite to make a .txt file. just copy and paste every dvd content to a list.
there's two nice functions on EditPad Lite: "stay on top" and a "search panel."

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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2008, 04:12:00 PM »

That looks nice! Smiley  And I like Paul Crowder for choosing the folk singer as example...  lol
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2008, 04:23:25 PM »


That looks nice! Smiley  And I like Paul Crowder for choosing the folk singer as example...  lol


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i didn't realise that about paul...  lol  lol

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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2008, 04:42:36 PM »

dboot -  Grin That's a nifty application!! Fields for format, source, lineage, grade and the original text file! Wow, I think I'm a bit in love with this right now.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2008, 05:42:25 PM »

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 Cheesy lol

Thank you so much for all the wonderful input, folks!  I got a number of chuckles and a few nice laughs out of it.  One reason I decided to hang my hat around these parts for a bit (apart from some amazing music) is the nice off-kilter sense of humor I picked up on.

  [ No.  I will not >here< inflict upon you a smiley of a kilt-less Scottsman. Tempting, though ... ]


From some number of years back I used to (somewhat casually) collect lots of Grateful Dead tapes, along with such misc. Tull, Yes, Crimson, ELP, Zep, BÖC, Zappa, Floyd and some more etc. as fell across my ears.  Alas, that collection is long since dissipated.  Many of the best tapes were played to death, and various other laws of attrition & entropy claimed the vast percentage.

Today I still have a couple dozen cassettes tucked away (somewhere), but no decent equipment to try & capture from them.


Any-a-way ... the point being, I feel I can best contribute to the Q'tinuum by seeding out for all those unfortunate enough not to have surplus bandwidth, such as some I have to spare about half most any given week.

In return .. yes indeed I will greedily suck down all that I can manage.  Been wandering in an audio desert for the past five years & the addiction desire is upon me some kinda fiercely ...


This is my initial step into lossless collection and archiving.  As an experienced IT person, I have quite some experience with organizing data properly for later reference & retrieval.

And, thus this humble thread.

I got it that there is no "official" convention .. as was always the case forever.  Just each person doing the best they can for the love of the hobby.

So, without guilt, I will heedlessly re-name & re-organize per my personal tastes.  Part of my question was directed at saving myself time from uploading and re-re-naming to re-seed oldish torrents.  But, I see no way to be true to the original torrent AND also Do It My Way.

Maybe, in the end, it's something for the best & a way  I can contribute back.  Should I have to create new torrents to honor reseed requests, tags and filenames and directory structures plus additional data may well be one of my value-added services.

I pretty much archive at the raw data level for playback on computators & relateds ... very rarely do I burn CD's or DVD's for playback, and then it's nearly always as a gift rather than personal use.  To me, full and accurate tagging is essential, an integral part of the collections as much as liner notes and artwork.

I promise to preserve the lineage of all that I gather, but it seems I will add my own layer on top when it comes my turn to upload new torrents based upon my sources.

For me, it starts with a directory by artist, within which are directories for specific 'works' (CD's, shows, etc.).  Artwork and info directories catch all non-media files and are placed in appropriate specific directories.

I understand the need for a main torrent directory to be very uniquely named, but it will always be intended to have its contents placed into an artists directory.

Example:

suzanne Vega - 2007-10-28.torrent - [original torrent name, root directory]

\Suzanne_Vega\  - [root artist folder]

 -> \artwork\  - [sub-folder of general Susan Vega art, photo's, etc.; media-ish]
 -> \info\ - [sub-folder of general Susan Vega info, text-ish]

 -> \Norway_FM(2007-10-28)\  - [sub-folder of one "work" or "project"]
 -> -> \artwork\  - [sub-folder of project-specific art, photo's, etc.; media-ish]
 -> -> \info\ - [sub-folder of project-specific info, text-ish]
 -> -> \CD1\ - [as needed, individual files sorted by disc]
 -> -> \CD2\
 -> -> \Suzanne Vega - 03 - Marlene on the Wall (2007-10-28).flac

the last being a typical filename.

So, other quickie examples from the past week:

\Beth_Orton\Whine_Over_Newtown\CD2\Beth Orton - d2t22 - She Cries your Name (2006-04-20).flac

shows the exact location of track 22 from the second CD of this particular project.


These were nice, neat examples .. others get more messy with long medley's or numerous artists:

\Solomon_Burke\Montreux_Jazz_FM(2005-07-04)\Solomon Burke - 14 - Sittin' at the dock of the bay-fafafafafa-Stand by me-Spanish harlem (2005-07-04).flac

and

\Pink_Floyd\Interstellar_Zappadrive\CD1\Pink Floyd - d1t05 - Interstellar Zappadrive (1969-10-25).flac

and

\Pink_Floyd\What_Syd_Wants\CD2\The Pink Floyd - d2t10 - Vegetable Man 67 (mix with ASoS).flac
\Pink_Floyd\What_Syd_Wants\CD2\The Pink Floyd - HRV CDR032 - What Syd Wants CD2.md5

and

\music\Bob_Marley\Rainbow_Theatre_London(1977-06-04)\Bob Marley & The Wailers - 06 - Crazy Baldhead-Runnin Away (1977-06-04).flac
\music\Bob_Marley\Rainbow_Theatre_London(1977-06-04)\Bob Marley & The Wailers - Rainbow Theatre London (1977-06-04).txt

and

\music\Les_Catacombes(1969)\Corea, McLaughlin, Holland & DeJohnette - 02 - Les Catacombes (take 2).flac
\music\Les_Catacombes(1969)\Corea, McLaughlin, Holland And DeJohnette - Les Catacombes (1969).md5


wellllll ... I've rather clearly over-stated the idea.

A bit of work, but pays for itself when searching a hard drive (or dozen) for something.  Also, this very importantly avoids the tragedy of accidentally over-writing existing files; this naming convention gives each song a unique filename.

Been doing it this way for about about ten years with *.mp3's, and am now stepping to the next generation as I replace all the critical *.mp3's with lossless.


dboot looks like it'll be quite possibly interesting ... but I think I'll still be following the directory & filename conventions.  Been learning a bit about complex and large databases these past couple of years & I see myself applying that knowledge to the hundreds of thousands of documents & files across three terabytes of drives that represent my matrix, uhr, life.

Thanks for all the feedback!  Feel free to argue/advise as much as you wish.  I'm still searching for a more perfect solution.

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 06:01:07 PM »

A naming convetion I see often used goes like: bd2007-09-28d1t05.flac  (I think this matrix is used at etree)

All the discussions about setting some standard ended nowhere... as it always were some personal preferences overruling any agreement.  lol

But thanks for your nice suggestions... gave me some ideas for organizing my files.  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2008, 06:37:05 PM »

When I download something I seed back until I get at least a nodding head or even better a crown etc etc. showing in my profile.

Everyone is different with their computer set ups and skills and circumstance, but it is good manners to seed back at least as much as you take, imho, tech disasters not withstanding.

My computer is shared with other members of my family so I have to consider their needs, so I feel seeding back the same amount as I take, if I can, works for me as a compromise. Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2008, 06:40:01 PM »

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A thing I like is having all the songs in a directory follow the

  artist - d1t01 - song title(info, date).flac

convention.  When viewing that directory, all the song files are grouped and easy to count (to look for missing files).  When multiple discs get placed in the same directory, then the songs are still grouped by disc.

Whereas,

  The Pink Floyd - HRV CDR032 - What Syd Wants CD2.md5

will always stand above or below the block(s) of songs due to the missing track number.


And, did I mention ...?  When you have to SEARCH a drive or set of directories, you get all sorts of good hits to locate the proper song & artist & directory.


Oh.

BTW ... an essential utility for viewing the file structure on your hard disks:

Welcome to the SequoiaView Homepage
SequoiaView 1.3 was launched November 2002

http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/onderzoek_informatica/visualization/sequoiaview/


Really, everyone, you want to immediately download this utility and begin using it.  It works on just about everything windows through WinXP (but I can't vouch for WinVista since I don't intend to downgrade to that OS & haven't tried it).

The SequoiaViewer creates a color, fractal-like map of your files, with options to mouseover each file & reveal it's name, directory path & size.  It is essential and sweet & all sorts of puuurty to look at, too.  Cool

Remember to play with the options a bit.  There aren't many, but a couple of them enhance the usefulness.

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the only change that came was over me
she pretended not to want love
I hope she was only fooling me
      so when you look into the sun
      look for the pleasures nearly won
      or was it better than to run
      than to spend the summer singing
      and summer could have come in a day
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2008, 12:53:45 AM »


dboot -  Grin That's a nifty application!! Fields for format, source, lineage, grade and the original text file! Wow, I think I'm a bit in love with this right now.


hehe pretty cool, huh?  Wink  Smiley
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